"That never would have stopped him from trying to give advice. To the both of us," Mathias says with a small grin. "He was very much a meddler." It's not something he ever imagined he'd miss, but he does now. Just a little bit. Still, he thinks he's done relatively well on his own and he's glad that he and Veronica have made it this far, muddling through together.

"He would have driven you crazy," he says. "But he would have liked you."